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	<title>Comments on: The Tyranny of the Foil Hatted</title>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
		<link>http://guidewiregroup.com/2010/01/the-tyranny-of-the-foil-hatted/comment-page-1/#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 18:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This facebook privacy thing is a constant battle that I think will never reside. Over the last year they have made a lot of changes to privacy. It seems so many companies are after user data. Only yesterday we were discussing who owns any photos you upload? I feel the person who the photo is of, but if they never uploaded it how do they get access to remove it. Things go viral and before you know it a photo could be on 5,000 different computers around the world.

As the saying goes if you would not let your parent see the photo it should not be on the internet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This facebook privacy thing is a constant battle that I think will never reside. Over the last year they have made a lot of changes to privacy. It seems so many companies are after user data. Only yesterday we were discussing who owns any photos you upload? I feel the person who the photo is of, but if they never uploaded it how do they get access to remove it. Things go viral and before you know it a photo could be on 5,000 different computers around the world.</p>
<p>As the saying goes if you would not let your parent see the photo it should not be on the internet!</p>
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		<title>By: LF Writer</title>
		<link>http://guidewiregroup.com/2010/01/the-tyranny-of-the-foil-hatted/comment-page-1/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>LF Writer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 03:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manage everything you do online as if you are conducting a press conference. Web-based actions live forever...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manage everything you do online as if you are conducting a press conference. Web-based actions live forever&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: A Foil-Hatted Follow Up &#124; Guidewire Group</title>
		<link>http://guidewiregroup.com/2010/01/the-tyranny-of-the-foil-hatted/comment-page-1/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator>A Foil-Hatted Follow Up &#124; Guidewire Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   I learned a good lesson yesterday: when writing about something as contentious and hot-button as online privacy, don&#8217;t just dash something off in under 30 minutes. Though I stand by my original thesis, it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   I learned a good lesson yesterday: when writing about something as contentious and hot-button as online privacy, don&#8217;t just dash something off in under 30 minutes. Though I stand by my original thesis, it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: carlacthompson</title>
		<link>http://guidewiregroup.com/2010/01/the-tyranny-of-the-foil-hatted/comment-page-1/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>carlacthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 01:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you follow technology, Otto - and it appears that you do - you&#039;ll recognize the quiz result reference as an allusion to the hubbub that arose several months ago, about Facebook quiz developers having access to your personal data. I do, in fact, realize that people use Facebook for more than nonsensical minutia. Which is precisely my point. It is a goldmine of data about a very large portion of the population. Any business person with a modicum of savvy is going to look for a way to use that data. 

I don&#039;t actually think privacy is dead. What I do think is that we need to start thinking about it differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you follow technology, Otto &#8211; and it appears that you do &#8211; you&#8217;ll recognize the quiz result reference as an allusion to the hubbub that arose several months ago, about Facebook quiz developers having access to your personal data. I do, in fact, realize that people use Facebook for more than nonsensical minutia. Which is precisely my point. It is a goldmine of data about a very large portion of the population. Any business person with a modicum of savvy is going to look for a way to use that data. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t actually think privacy is dead. What I do think is that we need to start thinking about it differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Otto</title>
		<link>http://guidewiregroup.com/2010/01/the-tyranny-of-the-foil-hatted/comment-page-1/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>Otto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that you think anybody is concerned about their &quot;Facebook quiz results&quot; only proves that you have no idea what you&#039;re talking about.

Many, many people use Facebook as more than a way to share nonsensical shit with each other. 

And yes, when I&#039;m sending pictures to my family and friends, privacy is indeed an important consideration. Perhaps I don&#039;t want my pictures plastered all over the internet, but my mom would certainly like to see them, yeah?

If you truly think privacy is dead, then let me see you build a page where you post every single email you send and receive. Until you do that, STFU about that which you know nothing about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that you think anybody is concerned about their &#8220;Facebook quiz results&#8221; only proves that you have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>Many, many people use Facebook as more than a way to share nonsensical shit with each other. </p>
<p>And yes, when I&#8217;m sending pictures to my family and friends, privacy is indeed an important consideration. Perhaps I don&#8217;t want my pictures plastered all over the internet, but my mom would certainly like to see them, yeah?</p>
<p>If you truly think privacy is dead, then let me see you build a page where you post every single email you send and receive. Until you do that, STFU about that which you know nothing about.</p>
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		<title>By: carlacthompson</title>
		<link>http://guidewiregroup.com/2010/01/the-tyranny-of-the-foil-hatted/comment-page-1/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>carlacthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outlier - now you&#039;re talking! The issue of creative rights is much more interesting to me. What sort of protections should we put around content we&#039;re willingly putting out to the general public? 

And IMHO, Smug Mug is awfully kludgy to work with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outlier &#8211; now you&#8217;re talking! The issue of creative rights is much more interesting to me. What sort of protections should we put around content we&#8217;re willingly putting out to the general public? </p>
<p>And IMHO, Smug Mug is awfully kludgy to work with.</p>
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		<title>By: carlacthompson</title>
		<link>http://guidewiregroup.com/2010/01/the-tyranny-of-the-foil-hatted/comment-page-1/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>carlacthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t look into mud huts, Stacey. I&#039;d miss your cynicism. My essential point, though, is that it&#039;s way too late to be crying foul - and I think that&#039;s the subtext of Zuckerberg&#039;s comments in his interview. 

I either made the point in a recent post or in my head but: the reason the privacy changes got so many people worked up is that it struck a gong of realization as to how much personal info we&#039;ve dumped in Zuckerberg&#039;s lap. And he&#039;s got every right in the world to do whatever the hell he wants with it. I know you&#039;re going to argue he doesn&#039;t, but possession is nine-tenths of ownership. By using a credit card, you&#039;re tacitly agreeing that American Express can track every item you buy and, subsequently, get a reasonably accurate picture of how you live your life. And by rating your books on Visual Bookshelf, you&#039;re giving the same tacit approval to Facebook. Any arguing about the whys and wherefores of it is just detracting from the larger issue: how we move forward and benefit from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t look into mud huts, Stacey. I&#8217;d miss your cynicism. My essential point, though, is that it&#8217;s way too late to be crying foul &#8211; and I think that&#8217;s the subtext of Zuckerberg&#8217;s comments in his interview. </p>
<p>I either made the point in a recent post or in my head but: the reason the privacy changes got so many people worked up is that it struck a gong of realization as to how much personal info we&#8217;ve dumped in Zuckerberg&#8217;s lap. And he&#8217;s got every right in the world to do whatever the hell he wants with it. I know you&#8217;re going to argue he doesn&#8217;t, but possession is nine-tenths of ownership. By using a credit card, you&#8217;re tacitly agreeing that American Express can track every item you buy and, subsequently, get a reasonably accurate picture of how you live your life. And by rating your books on Visual Bookshelf, you&#8217;re giving the same tacit approval to Facebook. Any arguing about the whys and wherefores of it is just detracting from the larger issue: how we move forward and benefit from it.</p>
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		<title>By: outlier</title>
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		<dc:creator>outlier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt, all of our FB email, photos, habits, keywords etc. are being cataloged.  Maybe they are having a competition with the NSA to see who can gather more useless info.  

Flickr is the one that keeps me up at night.  I love the service but don&#039;t like that I am giving away all my creative rights.  I could switch but I am up to probably 2000 images and don&#039;t REALLY care I guess...or I would switch to something like smug mug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt, all of our FB email, photos, habits, keywords etc. are being cataloged.  Maybe they are having a competition with the NSA to see who can gather more useless info.  </p>
<p>Flickr is the one that keeps me up at night.  I love the service but don&#8217;t like that I am giving away all my creative rights.  I could switch but I am up to probably 2000 images and don&#8217;t REALLY care I guess&#8230;or I would switch to something like smug mug.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey Higgonbotham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacey Higgonbotham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carla, I think your post skips some key questions between the tinfoil hats, and our-data-is-already-free-get-over-it crowd. Yes, the privacy horse has left the barn, but before we let Google or whomever claim ownership of our horse (really, am I using this metaphor?) let&#039;s take a moment to ask some questions:

Can we at least see our horse after Google or Facebook take it? Do we know what they are doing with it? Have a say in who else gets to ride it? What are they doing to ensure my horse can hang out with other horses that I might want it to? 

Okay now that I&#039;ve beaten that metaphor (horse) to death, the point isn&#039;t that this is a battle between Luddites and the elite who argue our quaint notions about privacy are holding us back as a society because we might be holding useful data. There is a need for reasoned debate on how society lets private companies use that data, and what control the user gives up in exchange for seeing pictures of their friends online. Right now, the reflexive angst about privacy should be a precursor to those discussions, not dismissed as harmful.

As bloggers our role should be to help guide those discussions. Perhaps I need to write a series of posts on what happens to your data at Facebook and what that means, or why you might be better off trading your privacy for coupons on select foods when you look up a recipe online. Or perhaps I just need to look into mud huts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carla, I think your post skips some key questions between the tinfoil hats, and our-data-is-already-free-get-over-it crowd. Yes, the privacy horse has left the barn, but before we let Google or whomever claim ownership of our horse (really, am I using this metaphor?) let&#8217;s take a moment to ask some questions:</p>
<p>Can we at least see our horse after Google or Facebook take it? Do we know what they are doing with it? Have a say in who else gets to ride it? What are they doing to ensure my horse can hang out with other horses that I might want it to? </p>
<p>Okay now that I&#8217;ve beaten that metaphor (horse) to death, the point isn&#8217;t that this is a battle between Luddites and the elite who argue our quaint notions about privacy are holding us back as a society because we might be holding useful data. There is a need for reasoned debate on how society lets private companies use that data, and what control the user gives up in exchange for seeing pictures of their friends online. Right now, the reflexive angst about privacy should be a precursor to those discussions, not dismissed as harmful.</p>
<p>As bloggers our role should be to help guide those discussions. Perhaps I need to write a series of posts on what happens to your data at Facebook and what that means, or why you might be better off trading your privacy for coupons on select foods when you look up a recipe online. Or perhaps I just need to look into mud huts.</p>
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